James Donald Adams was a New York Times Book Reviewer who also edited many volumes of poetry and literature.
Adams can either be Time or Degree
Dr. Jones unintentionally has two ascendants for Mr. Adams, which causes a conundrum. When I first reviewed them, I went with the time-based ascendant and ignored the tabular listing. Overtime though, the most I read about Adams, the more I became convinced it was off and had to be adjusted, so I changed it from 28 Scorpio to 22 Sagittarius. Only the rectified chart is mentioned here. The original two are over here called Jones 007.
Mr Adams’s obit is from the New York Times, naturally.. 76966967.pdf
When we started this project, three years ago on August 29th, we began with mundane charts and the Invasion of Poland, September 1st, 1939. No one remembers when we changed over to mainly nativities, but by February 2017 we were back to the natals I had started as a solo project several years previous.
It must have been around March when Hoagy Carmichael, not part of the Jones 1000 surprisingly, was suggested but I no longer remember why. He was tough, so tough, that we finally gave up and shelved him. We decided that this musical genius could just about fit anything, & our software, Matrix’s WinStar Basic though better than anything on the web was still kludgey & imprecise and we lost hope. I think it was Hoagy that forced the upgrade to Kepler, a mixed bag to be honest and not one I am sure I would recommend, but it is far superior to WB.
Recently, a friend who reads the blog, asked “How bout Hoagy?” and I recanted our travail. He laughed, and I thought, surely by now with nearly 800 charts under our belt, we could tackle him; well that’s the hope, but rectification is a tricky thing and you never can tell.
A circus act
When Hoagy was born on November 22, 1899, in Bloomington Indiana, the the center of the nation’s population was on Henry Marr’s farm in Columbus roughly 40 miles due east. Because of its proximity, to the “center of the nation,” it was a popular tourist area, as everyone was coming from miles around to see what that the “center” looked like. Travelling acts toured came to Bloomington to entertain the masses, and one called the the Hoagland’s High Wire Act stayed at the Carmichael home for a bit — and gave the yet to be born baby his rather unique name. His middle name was far more prosaic: Howard, named for his electrician father — a new field thanks to the inventive Thomas Alva Edison.
We pegged Hoagy to being born sometime around 12 noon — the historic time for the coronation of kings, though odd set for someone born in the Heartland of America, but more apropos than anyone had then realized. His biographer, Richard Sudhalter met him on trip to Buenos Aires and was so entranced by Hoagy he wrote his biography, calling him the “most talented, inventive, sophisticated and jazz-oriented of all the great craftsmen” in the first half of the 20th century. To be honest, that’s probably an understatement as so much of he did affected so many other musicians afterwards. This illustrious time though, gives Hoagy the symbol of 23 Aquarius (HS) of “The Koran Upraised” with the keyword of “Justification.” Kent McClung in his Hyperion Symbols writes this is suggestive of someone who is accepted as a “king” based more on his nature than birth.
Hoagy’s midheaven is 09 Sagittarius or “crickets chirping in the tall grass on a sunny day” was actually performed in the Bogart-Bacall classic “To Have and Have not.” The ad blurbs joked about Bogey and Hoagy and Bacall, it was an obvious quip, and good copy.
the begin of the beguine
Like many songwriters before the 1960’s Hoagy began his songwriting career on Tin Pan Alley like Scott Joplin, Cole Porter (who and not Hoagy wrote the Begin of the Beguine but also a Hoosier), Irving Berlin & more recently Burt Bacharach, & Neil Diamond. He was the first though, to transition over as a singer of his own songs. Not to let the grass grow under his feat, Hoagy true to his Aquarius rising was the first to utilize new technologies as they came along like television, electronic microphones and sound recordings, * but there he was following his old man’s footsteps and hitching his star to the trend.
Hoagy though came to music because he was forced to withdraw from law school on January 3, 1923 , not because he did not like the law but because he could not pay the tuition. His mother had been a music teacher so he had learned to read and write music on the piano from her, and he was selling a song here and there on the Campus, so Hoagy had an inkling that this may pan out.
His hunch was right and he had many more hits and almost single-handedly fueled the Big Bands of the 30’s. The famous “Old Buttermilk Sky” that put the Kay Kyser band on the map, and one of the first tunes played by our trumpet impresario Bobby Guy, was written by Hoagie. Ray Charles’s famous “Georgia” was penned by Hoagie too. And of course, there was StarDust.
As his songs caught on, other Alley writers were able to successfully transition too and music,and musicals were the theme of the day. His music was so much a part of Americana that many of them are just called “Standards” — songs that every vocalist is expected to be sing for their first job when they have no music of their own — just ask that heart throb of the 30’s Frank Sinatra.
“Play me a Hoagy Carmichael song and I hear the banging of a screen door and the whine of an outboard motor on a lake—sounds of summer in a small-town America that is long gone but still longed for.”
William Zinsser, author of “On Writing Well” in The American Scholar 1994
Tin Pan Alley took its name from a small side street in NYC at 28th Street between Fifth Avenue and Broadway in the early 20th century. It was a joke on the sound of pianos being pounded as their writers demonstrated their tunes to the musical publishers. The songwriters, all independents (they were not employed by the musical publishers by paid by royalty) created the commercial music of the day. Originally major sales were for home musicians and vaudeville, then player pianos and eventually songs for established vocalists, Broadway and bands to perform.
Philadelphia’s famous Hoagie sandwich was not named for him.
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Bobby Guy was born in Lambertville, Hunterdon County, New Jersey on March 28, 1916 as William Robert Guy. There is not much known about him before he started playing trumpet with the the legendary Kay Kyser band in 1936 just as the metal horn shook off its military heritage and became a “modern” musical instrument (see Uranus in the 2nd house opposite Mars in the 8th) thanks to him and fellow impresario Louis Armstrong.
Bobby joined the Kyser band on trumpet in the Spring of ’36. “A slightly imposing appearance betrayed a friendly personality. You could hear Bobby Guy’s laugh from across the room. He had a wonderful sense of humor.” Except for his stint in the service, Bobby stayed with the band until ’49. He freelanced after his KK band days, before joining NBC studios.
Georgia Carroll aka Mrs. Kay Kyser
He met Rose Marie when she was performing at a New Jersey nightclub before the war where Guy was playing too. Rose Marie claimed that she three days after meeting Guy that she would marry him.
The War steps in
After a hiatus to serve in World War II, he and Rose Marie married in Jersey on June 19, 1946 — the day coincidentally after Kay’s birthday. In the 50’s he got a spot for the NBC orchestra & the family moved to Van Nuys California and played under contract there until his death in 1964.
The Sun at the 4th house cusp is sextile Pluto at the 7th and then sextile Uranus music in the 2nd showing how much being a musician meant to him and how he latched onto the trumpet at the right time (see his ascendant for more on that). His eager Mental Chemistry would have helped there, spotting the trend perhaps in a news article or radio show and then perfecting his “sound”.
A sudden embolism
He died of a strange and sudden blood clot (Mars in the 8th conjunct the South Node in the 7th both in Leo and conjunct the dissolving effects of Neptune at 30 Cancer – a fatal degree) on May 28, 1964 a fortnight before his 18th wedding anniversary. Rose Marie never remarried and based on his Jupiter and Sun conjunct in the 4th House, we know that chances are his sudden death was hereditary and he filled up his home life with music and laughter. He left behind a daughter, Georgiana Marie also.
We leave you bits of the Big Band sound that made the 1930’s alive and happening despite the doom and gloom of the Great Depression.
Rose Marie’s voice was fast, crackling & husky etching the words. when you here the staccato, you remember it. She was born August 15 1923 in Manhattan New York, as Rose Marie Mazzatta (she never used it professionally) is most remembered as part of the core cast of “The Dick Van Dyke Show.” By the time that show went on the air, in 1961, she had had multiple lives in theatre , starting with her years as a child singer when was “Baby Rose Marie,” a national star on radio at 5 years old.
She loved to perform — on radio, onstage throughout the country, and in movies, making thousands upon thousands of dollars but like so many childhood stars, saw none of it for her father, Frank Mazetta, a.k.a. Frank Curley feathered his bed. The Dragon’s Tail at 12 Pisces in the 4th is conjunct radio’s Uranus at 17 in the 5th where we see the family collective impinge upon her individuality.
Rose Marie calls her father in her autobio “a mean man,” and adds that “I disliked my father intensely.” It did leave a lasting impression her relationship with Dad — Uranus is opposing Mars at 20 Leo and those Zuni never enjoy the sun , cut off at the kneecaps by a swindling father making the father-daughter relationship hollow.
Daddy and Uncle Al
Daddy never married her mother because, he had a second family elsewhere, Pluto on the 9th house cusp suggests that something is amiss in the marriage department, particularly as it is squared Saturn, inconjunct the South Node. Family life just is not living up to the ideal and new secret fathers come in the picture unforeseen. Rose Marie in her autobiography says he was a small-time gangsters — the lower rung fellows who do this when told or that when nudged.
When she and her father went to Chicago in the early nineteen-thirties, (around when Pluto was discovered) they were summoned by Al Capone to his mansion in the nearby town of Cicero, where the gangsters fawned over her and fêted her. Capone gave her a diamond ring, insisted she call him Uncle Al, and, Rose Marie adds, “Turned to my father, he says, ‘We’ll take care of her from here on in.’ ”
He was good on his word. When Rose Marie was performing at the Copacabana, in New York, sometime in the nineteen-forties, she was summoned to the table of Joseph Fischetti, Capone’s cousin, who asked if she had another gig coming up. She said no. “He says, ‘You’re gonna play Tahoe.’
“Oh, O.K. And that’s the way it went. I was going from one place to another, all because of the boys. They were absolutely wonderful to me.” When Benjamin Bugsy Siegel, one of the boys, opened the Flamingo hotel, in Las Vegas, with borrowed Mob money, Rose Marie and Jimmy Durante were its headliners.
In “Wait for Your Laugh,” she tells some extraordinary stories about Siegel, including an incident in which he coaxed her to play baccarat in his casino in order to attract customers. “I’m not a shill,” she said.
“Do it for me,” he responded, “I understand”. He gave her ten thousand dollars & she won twenty-five, stuffed it in her bra before going onstage. After the show, gave it to Siegel personally.
He told her, “You’re all right.” Five days later, he was killed. That’s show business.
Dick van Dyke Show
Rose Marie turned to television. Seven years later she found stardom there, on “The Dick Van Dyke Show.” Created by Carl Reiner, the show is centered on a TV comedy writer played by Van Dyke but was based on Reiner’s own life (Ritchie is his son Rob Reiner who played the Meathead in the Archie Bunker Show & married Penny Marshall). While many of the show’s scenes take place in a writers’ room, where Rose Marie plays Sally Rogers, one of the writers and the only woman gag writer.
Rose Marie recommended her lifelong friend, comedian Morey Amsterdam, for the role of another writer — their inventiveness was central to the show. “… it wasn’t ad-libbed, but scripted, still we would come up with things in the middle of rehearsal and they would shove in the script,” she says.
Van Dyke says that he learned comedy from Rose Marie but for Rose Marie it was the end of an era; she was overshadowed by singer-dancer Mary Tyler Moore because, contrary to her expectations, the show was not about creating gags and scripts but on the domestic life of the head writer– another unforeseen Daddy this time co-opting her & taking center stage.
Her Part of Fortune Two Dutch Children Talking came vividly to the fore — Dick van Dyke was of Dutch heritage and Mary Tyler Moore, the ingenue, was from New Amsterdam. They, and not her and Morey, stole the show and went onto greater success. She was now yesterday’s news.
Marriage and a baby
She married Bobby Guy, a trumpet player for NBC Studios, back when they had live music and Toscanini on the air. Rose Marie died in 2017 at 95 from old age. Their daughter Georgianna Rodrigues survives her.
Rose Marie is a Prism Temperament Type. It was not mentioned previously by either Robert Jansky or Marc Jones, but is something we have happened upon & was named by our Editor in Chief, Mo Saladin.
It has too great a space on either side to be a locomotive and too many conjunctions to be a splash. Rose Marie has a preponderance in Leo but that is not required. What is required is that it looks like a BUCKET with a singleton with a Grand Trine, but has an opposition so it cannot become a splay. When you find it, you have a rare PRISM.